ADC John Grieve and Greg Dyke’s “Hideously white BBC”

Those following the Stephen Lawrence: the never ending story will have registered the involvement of Assistant Deputy Commissioner John Grieve in the secret recording of  Duwayne Brookes and his lawyer.

I crossed swords with Grieve back in 2001 when he was  Director of the Racial and Violent Crime Task Force of the Metropolitan Police. Greg Dyke,  then the Chairman of the BBC, described the Corporation as “Hideously white” (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2001/jan/08/uknews1).  This was a clear incitement to hatred of the white population of Britain by someone in a position of considerable power and influence so I made a complaint to Grieve asking him to investigate Dyke for inciting racial hatred.  He refused to act, even after the now Tory Minister Gerald Howarth intervened asking him why he would not investigate.

In the case of incitement to racial hatred cases the police  operate a double standard: if the complainant is from an ethnic minority they investigate; if the complainant is white they refuse  investigate and often  refuse to even record the complaint.  The police response  to my  complaint against Dyke shows unequivocally  how reluctant the police are  to investigate complaints of racial incitement when  the complaint is made by someone white concerning abuse of that racial group.  Where such a complaint  involves someone considered to be part of the politically correct elite there is no chance whatsoever of it being investigated.

Below  is the correspondence relating to the Dyke complaint:

The fact that the very pc copper Grieve is now under fire for his actions relating to the Lawrence story is a delicious irony.

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                                              18 January 2001

Asst Dept. Comm. John Grieve

Racial and Violent Crimes Squad

Metropolitan Police

New Scotland Yard

10 The Broadway

London SWlH 6BG

cc All national newspapers

Gerald Howorth MP

Dear Mr Grieve,

I  ask  you to take investigate  the statement  by  the   BBC   Director  General,  Greg Dyke,  that the  BBC  is  “hideously   white” for inciting racial hatred.

The  statement  is unambiguously racist because  Mr  Dyke  is  making  a statement about a  recognised racial group and   the    use  of  the word “hideously”  is highly  inflammatory.   The         extremely unpleasant nature of it can be seen by substituting    black  or  Asian  for white:  “hideously  black”,  “hideously    Asian”.  Its  effect  can only be  to  incite  racial  hatred   against whites.

The  severity  of  the offence is greatly  magnified  by   Mr    Dyke’s position as the head of our  state funded broadcaster.   I enclose a cutting from the Sunday Telegraph dated 7/1/2001,  to formally substantiate the statement Mr Dyke made.

I  am  sure that the severity of the offence  and  Mr  Dyke’s  position will lead a fervent anti-racist such as yourself  to  take immediate and exemplary action.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Henderson

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John G D Grieve CBE QPM BA (Hons) M.Phil

Deputy Assistant Commissioner

Director, Racial & Violent Crime Task Force

Room 936 New Scotland Yard

Broadway LONDON

SWIH 0BG

Telephone: 0171-230-4186

Facsimile: 0171-230-2152

E-Mail: athena.met police@gtnet.gov, uk

Date: 31 January 2001

Dear Mr Henderson

I acknowledge receipt of your letter dated 18th January, 2001  concerning remarks made by Mr Greg Dyke, the Director General   of the  BBC.

When the Racial and Violent Crime Task Force was  established   in 1998 it was given clear terms of reference, which included  that  it   would only be tasked at the direct request  of  an   Assistant   Commissioner   from  within  this   Service.   In   acknowledgement  of the concerns  expressed about race  crime   and to endorse divisions as the focal point of  police-public   interference we established Community Safety  Units in  every  London Borough.

I have not seen or heard the comments you refer to but if you  feel  that  they may constitute a criminal  offence  you  can  report  the   matter  to  your  local  police  for   possible   investigation.

Yours sincerely

Detective Inspector Howard Gosling

Staff   Officer   to  John  G  D  Grieve   Deputy   Assistant    Commissioner

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12 February 2001

Mr John Stevens

Metropolitan Police Commissioner

New Scotland Yard

10 The Broadway

London SWlH 6BG

cc All national newspapers

Gerald Howorth MP

Dear Mr Stevens,

I  enclose a copy of a letter I sent to John Grieve making  a   formal complaint against the BBC Director-General, Greg Dyke,   for his remarks about the BBC being “hideously white”.

A  DI Gosling has replied on behalf of Mr Grieve.  A copy  of   his letter is enclosed. It is the type of letter which brings   the  public service into contempt.

DI Gosling makes himself ridiculous when he says “I have  not   seen or heard the comments you refer to…” Not only would he  have  had to be living in a cave for the past few months  not   to have met them through the general media coverage,  I  sent    a newspaper cutting giving the story and offending words with   my original letter of complaint to John Grieve.

DI Gosling is begging the question when he says that an  Asst   Commissioner must “task”  Grieve’s group before action can be   taken.  The proper procedure when a complaint is made to John   Grieve is for it to be submitted to an Asst Commissioner.  If   it was rejected as inappropriate for action by the RVCTF,  it   should  have been submitted to my nearest police  station  in  accordance with standard police practice.  However,  this  is  manifestly  a  complaint which is suitable for  John  Grieve,   because  it  involves a public figure  with  great  practical influence and the words used were highly inflammatory.

I  ask you to take up the complaint and instruct John  Grieve    to investigate it forthwith.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Henderson

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6 March 2001

Mr John Stevens

Metropolitan Police Commissioner

New Scotland Yard

10 The Broadway

London SWlH 6BG

cc All national newspapers

Gerald Howorth MP

Dear Mr Stevens,

I  wrote to you on 12 February concerning an absurd  reply  I  had  received  from  the  Racial  and  Violent  Crimes  Squad    following  a  complaint  I  had made  about  Greg  Dyke,  the   Director  General of the BBC (copy enclosed).  I have had  no   answer from you.  My original letter was sent, as is this, by  recorded delivery,  so please do not waste your time and mine  claiming it was not received.

If you refuse to address this complaint honestly,  it will be   unambiguous   proof that your police force is not  interested  in   applying   the  law  equally.   Dyke’s   comments   were  unambiguously  racist and his position in charge of the  only state broadcaster amplified them greatly.

I suggest you reply by return of post.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Henderson

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10-March 2001

Mr John Stevens

Metropolitan Police Commissioner

New Scotland Yard

10 The Broadway

London SWlH 6BG

cc All national newspapers

Gerald Howorth MP

Dear Mr Stevens,

I have Mr Grieve’s letter of 2 March in response to my letter   to you of 12 February. A bald refusal to act will not do.

Anne   Robinson,   a   presenter,    makes   some   obviously    tongue-in-cheek   remarks  about  the  Welsh  on   a   comedy    programme:  result – the matter is referred to the police who  take  it seriously and begin preparing a file for  the  Crown  Prosecution Service.

Greg  Dyke,  the Director-General of the  state  broadcasting   service,  the BBC,  states that his senior management team is   “hideously  white”.  Mr Dyke is (1) the most powerful man  in  British broadcasting  and (2) the  remark  is  unambiguously    racist  in the crudest fashion and feeds the  resentments  of    the minorities in Britain. Yet you  refuse to act. Why?

I repeat what I said in my letter of 6 March,  every time  you    refuse  to apply the law even-handedly,  a nail is knocked  in  the coffin of your credibility and that of your force.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Henderson

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                                                                  2 April  2001

Sir John Stevens

Metropolitan Police Commissioner

New Scotland Yard

10 The Broadway

London SWlH 6BG

cc All national newspapers

Gerald Howorth MP

Dear Sir John,

My apologies for missing your ‘K’ in previous letters. I have   had  no reply to my letter (sent by recorded delivery) of  10   March.  A  copy is attached.  Are you refusing to  give  your   reasons  for  failing  to  act  against  Greg  Dyke  for  his   “hideously white” comment?

I would also like answers to these questions:

–  How many of the 100 odd people arrested for “hate  crimes”    by  the Metropolitan Police on 20th  March were a) black  and   b) Asian?

–  How much of the Met’s total budget for the financial  year  ending 5/4/2001 (or any other accounting period you use)  has  been spent on “anti-racist” measures including training?

–  How much of the Met’s total budget for the financial  year  ending 5/4/2001 (or any other accounting period you use)  has  been spent investigating crimes formally classified as racist  by the Met?

Yours sincerely,

Robert Henderson

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GERALD HOWARTH MP

HOUSE OF COMMONS

LONDON SW1A 0AA Direct line: 020 7219 5650

Fax: 020 7219 1198

19th March 2001

Dear Mr Grieve,

Mr Robert Henderson of 156 Levita House,  Chalton Street,  London NWl 1HR,  wrote to the commissioner about Mr Greg Dyke’s remarks  about  theBBC  being  ‘hideously  white’.  I do think the police owe  us  all  an explanation as to why those remarks -quite clearly racial  – warrant no reaction  from yourselves whilst the remarks of Ann Robinson about  the Welsh do.

What is the difference?

Yours sincerely,

Gerald Howorth

John G. D. Grieve Esq CBE, QPM,

Deputy Asst Commissioner

Director, Racial and Violent Crime Task Force

Room 936, New Scotland Yard

Broadway, SWIH OBG

GERALD HOWARTH MP

HOUSE OF COMMONS LONDON SW1A 0AA

Direct line: 020 7219 5650

Fax:    020 7219 1198

8th May 2001

Dear Mr Grieve,

Thank  you  for your letter of 26th April about the case raised  by  Mr Robert Henderson of 156 Levita House, Chalton Street, London  NWl 1 HR, about the remarks attributed to the Director General of the BBC.

You  will not be surprised to know that I am well aware of the  demands on  police  time and resources and support the  priority  of   tackling serious  crime.  However,  I  simply put it to  you:  what  would  have happened  had I referred to the music profession as  being   “hideously black”.  Can you not imagine that you would have been faced with  calls for me to be prosecuted and Mr Hague called upon to  expel me from  the Conservative Party?

It is that inequality of treatment which I find so offensive.

Yours sincerely

Gerald Howorth MP

John G. D. Grieve Esq CBE, QPM,

Deputy Asst Commissioner

Director, Racial and Violent Crime Task Force

Room 936, New Scotland Yard

Broadway, SW1H OBG

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9 Responses to ADC John Grieve and Greg Dyke’s “Hideously white BBC”

  1. Sarah says:

    I note that Howard Gosling’s reply on behalf of John Grieve said “I have not seen or heard the comments you refer to but if you feel that they may constitute a criminal offence you can report the matter to your local police for possible investigation.”

    Did you report it to the local police then?

    Also I realise this was 12 years ago now, but as a tip for the future people will reply to your letters more if you stop using aggressive and impolite phrases like “please do not waste your time and mine claiming it was not received” (when he hadn’t claimed that at all) and asking questions like “How many of the 100 odd people arrested for “hate crimes” by the Metropolitan Police on 20th March were a) black and b) Asian?”. Those kind of phrases and questions make you seem like an insane old racist who can’t be taken seriously.

    Just a tip.

  2. Barry says:

    A tip for you young lady..the police and their BBC for that matter are here to serve not pontificate about issues they have a job to do both of them yet both in this case failed miserably to do their job.If a member of the public wants to enquire if his letter had arrived when he had not received a reply or notification that it had indeed reached its intended destination then I cant see no reason why you cant ask this especially of a trusted organisation like the police who should always acknowledge receipt as a common courtesy to the public it serves.. in addition to enquire on the race of those arrested is a common question often asked by that very same squad in order to complete its basic function as a racial violent crime task force…those answers would be freely to hand…its not a difficult or awkward question its asked all the time by that very same group/squad .

    He didn’t report it to the police as it was not the correct course of action if you read the replies properly you would see that..your actions are ones that seem racist not the person mentioned above as you have hinted.

    • Sarah says:

      Can you quote me the part of my answer you think seems racist please? I like using quotes you see, it makes everything so much easier.

      I think you misunderstood my main point. People will be much more inclined to actually reply to letters/requests for information if the person writing it is polite. Especially when a department will clearly have such a huge correspondence flow. Further, you say “those answers (to the question about the race of people arrested for hate crimes) would be freely to hand.” This does not mean they need to give them out.

      “I cant see no reason why you cant ask this especially of a trusted organisation like the police who should always acknowledge receipt as a common courtesy to the public it serves” – Of course. Like I said, it’s better to do so in a polite, non-aggressive way though. (Also watch your double negatives here – just a tip for you, young man).

      “He didn’t report it to the police as it was not the correct course of action if you read the replies properly you would see that.” – No, as far as I can see he was recommended to that course of action. Hence my question asking him if he did it.

  3. shaunthebrummie says:

    Sarah..dont you think the groomers were hideously pakistani by race and islam motivated.of course the victims being underage and white…is of no concern to the leftist labourites like you.but now the majority have woken to what labour and the muslims have been getting up to,and are starting to react.and now the muslims and political elite are shitting themselves…

    • Sarah says:

      Sorry, what are you talking about? I haven’t mentioned anything about any groomers. Try following the topic at hand, it helps.

  4. Jack says:

    Sarah is correct. I suspect the ‘young lady’ reference was intended politely, however, and that a predictably chippy feminist reaction to it tells us much about the value of lectures on good manners coming from that quarter. Fortunately I try never to be unintentionally rude.

  5. s0ngb1rd says:

    I think we all remember the Dyke comment as particularly inflammatory…and perhaps there was a hidden agenda behind the comments. Who knows. I do however wish there were more people like Greg Dyke, willing to put their heads above the parapet. Instead we have a situation where the real issues have been blurred and resentment has been allowed to fester amongst various demographics of the population. Anyone who wants to make the case supporting the existence of racism and its effects, are faced with deep denial, charges of having chips on their shoulders etc. Anyone not representing a minority group who choses to support these assumptions is written off as a lilly-livered loony leftist! Followed by cries of reverse racism. Its textbook.

    I understand that many white Britons feel marginalised int their own country. This should absolutely be addressed, by open honest debate.

    If every minority in this country, regardless of what proportion of the population they represent, stopped accepting much of the everyday discrimination they faced, perhaps we might see more progressive relationships in society. As it is…mostly, we put up and shut up…and ignorance and jingoism are still alive and well and often appear to rule the day. Shame.

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